So, what is in my Seer Council.
Farseer w/ doom, fortune, RoW, RoW, SS
Warlocks x3 destructor
Warlock Embolden
Warlock Enhance
All with Witchblades and all on Jetbikes. These guys are meant to have a slight punch before combat with the x3 destructors. However, during my games against mostly Space Marines, dealing with Apothecary Command Squads and Assault terminators, I noticed that I was not doing well in the battle of attrition. However, they have been getting stuck into combat quite a long time. Dont' get me wrong, I plan for this, specially against really nasty units like mentioned before (assault Termies or a FnP Command squad with storm shields).
Now, there are a couple of thoughts. One, maybe the unit may actually need two more destructors to ensure their time in combat is not so long. Or.....
What about a scalpel unit? This would be a unit that comes in after the council is stuck in combat and causes massive casualties to clear the path for the seer council to create havok on the rest of my opponents army. Currently toying with the idea of Striking Scorpions, Shining Spears, or Banshees....(either of the foot guys on serpents or falcons of course).
I will experiment / math hammer and will post again
Showing posts with label Tactics. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Tactics. Show all posts
Tuesday, September 20, 2011
Wednesday, May 20, 2009
Eldar Skimmer Tactics
So, after many games in which I throw my Seer Council at the Assault Terminators w / Land Raider or Command Squad with Feel no pain and Storm Shields I started to think. Why do I keep sending my seer council out to stop the charge from the terminators / command squad. Specially anything on a landraider since they are able to assault from a great distance: 12" from LR movement + 2" from disembark + base size + 6". That can be a 20" assault range threat! Let's not even talk about the LR starting and finishing it's movement on a road because it gets worse.
Well, my opponents because quite familiar with the Seer Council and began planning on their hard hitters to be stuck on them also. I no longer had an advantage. The Seer Council getting stuck with their toughest unit was now part of THEIR plan. I was really wracking my brain trying to figure out how to make things go back to being on my terms and so it was that the Fire Prism (Or any tank with AV12 + holo fields but in a pinch any tank). Truthfully I have most of the idea to thank to my good friend Seint (nick name for now) who walked me through what he was thinking I ought to be able to do.
I was playing a game in which the same thing as always was about to happen, go up and force the enemy to engage my seer council or suffer an assault from the LR and it's occupants. It suddenly became apprent to me what my friend had been talking about. If I were to park my Fire Prism an inch away from the Land Raider it could not move forward as there was other structors on either side of it. Now, there wasn't so many structures that it was a city fight game but there was enough where the Land Raider wouldn't fit in that particular spot of the table without backing all the way out and coming back around which would then ruin their assault. Ramming the Prism was not an option as the LR can only achieve Strength 5 from a Ramming maneuver and that wouldn't even glance AV12. Amusingly enough this hapenned for the first time where my Fire Prism had to go 18" to get there so anyone assaulting needed 6's anyone shooting had to deal with AV12 (my back was not facing any shooters) and I got a cover save. On top of all that they would end up rolling twice on the vehicle damage chart THE FIRE PRISM WAS A BEAST!
Shooting yielded nothing but a 2 which turned into a 1 (crew shaken) and the assaults from the terminators yielded nothing. I now still have my Fire Prism AND my seer council to assault the terminators on their own terms or wreack havok on the rest of the army as they would have to get back in next turn without being able to assault at the 20" threat range they usually have while inside the LR.
So, skimmers! Do not forget you can do this and stop movement from hapenning! Also, I've tried this with a combination of Prism and some Vypers or Vypers alone. With the right combination of speed for cover and 6's needed in combat and let's not forget that a 3+ and the ramming vehicle stops ramming a skimmer, these vehicles are incredible at stoping movement from high threat targets on vehicles.
I will revisit this post with some pictures soon but hopefully it has all made sense.
Well, my opponents because quite familiar with the Seer Council and began planning on their hard hitters to be stuck on them also. I no longer had an advantage. The Seer Council getting stuck with their toughest unit was now part of THEIR plan. I was really wracking my brain trying to figure out how to make things go back to being on my terms and so it was that the Fire Prism (Or any tank with AV12 + holo fields but in a pinch any tank). Truthfully I have most of the idea to thank to my good friend Seint (nick name for now) who walked me through what he was thinking I ought to be able to do.
I was playing a game in which the same thing as always was about to happen, go up and force the enemy to engage my seer council or suffer an assault from the LR and it's occupants. It suddenly became apprent to me what my friend had been talking about. If I were to park my Fire Prism an inch away from the Land Raider it could not move forward as there was other structors on either side of it. Now, there wasn't so many structures that it was a city fight game but there was enough where the Land Raider wouldn't fit in that particular spot of the table without backing all the way out and coming back around which would then ruin their assault. Ramming the Prism was not an option as the LR can only achieve Strength 5 from a Ramming maneuver and that wouldn't even glance AV12. Amusingly enough this hapenned for the first time where my Fire Prism had to go 18" to get there so anyone assaulting needed 6's anyone shooting had to deal with AV12 (my back was not facing any shooters) and I got a cover save. On top of all that they would end up rolling twice on the vehicle damage chart THE FIRE PRISM WAS A BEAST!
Shooting yielded nothing but a 2 which turned into a 1 (crew shaken) and the assaults from the terminators yielded nothing. I now still have my Fire Prism AND my seer council to assault the terminators on their own terms or wreack havok on the rest of the army as they would have to get back in next turn without being able to assault at the 20" threat range they usually have while inside the LR.
So, skimmers! Do not forget you can do this and stop movement from hapenning! Also, I've tried this with a combination of Prism and some Vypers or Vypers alone. With the right combination of speed for cover and 6's needed in combat and let's not forget that a 3+ and the ramming vehicle stops ramming a skimmer, these vehicles are incredible at stoping movement from high threat targets on vehicles.
I will revisit this post with some pictures soon but hopefully it has all made sense.
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